Define children? Because last time I checked, "child" pornography with 15 years old "children" were postulated, and they even made a few 15 years old "children" sex offenders for sending naked pics of themselves.
I wasn't "a child" when I was 15. I was watching porn already.
I'll draw a parallel. It's a crime to kill yourself, so it's also a crime to TRY and kill yourself. Arguably it's so that people who attempt suicide can be institutionalized to get them through a rough patch, but you have the same untenable situation. A crime with no victim.
It's so parallel that I don't even see how it relates to the question in question.
I see killing yourself being a crime is because society sees you as its slave over whom it can command; slave is worth some money, so why let that money go waste!?
Killing a person is murder, a crime because someone who arguably did not want their life cut short is now dead. But if the killer and the "victim" are the same person, no crime has been committed because the underlying argument for why murder is a crime no longer holds. You can't be both the perpetrator and victim of a crime.
The same is for a kid who takes and sends pictures of him/herself. Child pornography is a crime to prevent bad people from taking advantage of kids and documenting it for whatever sick reasons they have. But a kid can't be both the perpetrator and victim of that crime.
In normal situations when you run into such a logical fallacy you have to discard it. But this is the law we're talking about and there's no such need. So yes kids can get prosecuted even though no crime has taken place. It's a symptom of people doing their jobs exactly by the book with no thought whatsoever for if it's the actual, correct thing to do. It's too bad.
Well, I think this the intent of people who wrote that book.
I mean, "they didn't think of it" argument does not work because the law is pretty old and the failure in question happens all the time and gets in the press.
So either they wanted to punish teenagers OR they were so afraid of missing one or two real child pornographers that millions of false positives and hundreds of cases didn't counterweight them to add respective exceptions.
Anyway, we're dealing with people who are very, very misguided to the point of being danger for humanity.
Just because the failures happen and get press doesn't mean that the law gets fixed. There is TREMENDOUS hysteresis in the law. The only way anything ever gets fixed is if the majority of politicians think they will all not get re-elected unless they fix something. That doesn't happen too often. Besides none of them will go anywhere near something that sounds like "being soft on crime" or "think of the children" or what-have-you.
Ultimately it's what happens when the system is highly skewed towards zero accountability. The cost to the individuals pursuing these cases is small and there's good upside risk: putting away child pornographers is great for your career. And the downside risk is HUGE! Failing to put someone away for it is going to make you look really bad. So reasonable people making reasonable decisions need never happen.
What are you talking about? Your first sentence seems to be gibberish and your example of a crime actually details a sentence.
It's a minority crime - everyone speeds, drinks underage, steals office stationary. The vast majority of people don't find children sexually attractive.
> The vast majority of people don't find children sexually attractive.
I hate to ask as I'm not a big fan of the meme, but I am really curious about the numbers. Do you have a source for that?
30% of the people are under 18 themselves. It would be pretty weird if they didn't find each other attractive. That doesn't leave much of a margin for what say to be true, especially when a switch doesn't magically get flipped on your 18th birthday making you instantly attractive.
Sorry, I'd hoped that this would be one place where people used the work paedophile sensibly. I'm talking about people being attracted to prepubescents.
As you were talking about crime, Randomdata and I were assuming you were referring to acts concerning persons under 18. Pedophilia is not a legal term, it’s a psychological term. It’s not a crime to be a pedophile. Rape, child abuse, etc are.
> The vast majority of people don't find children sexually attractive.
Then why are there so many underage fashion models and pop stars? Why is leering at underage girls so often a theme in TV series? Just yesterday, I saw an episode of Seinfeld in which Jerry and George couldn’t stop looking at the cleavage of a 15 year old girl.[1] Also, who has seen Blue Lagoon and can honestly say they didn’t fall in love with Brooke Shields?
It's not a "minority" crime (an example of that would be prison sentences for crack being 20x that for possessing an equivalent amount of cocain).
Child pornography is a sex crime that targets and direclty injures children.