I think there's a difference between what Fry's describing and normal introversion. Normal introversion is "I just want to be left alone for a few hours", or at most, "I just want to be left alone this weekend". Introverts have normal need for community, they like being around people - they just can't stand to be around people too much, because it's energy draining for them. Fry seems to talk in terms of "I just want to be left alone this lifetime."
There're a lot of personality traits that are perfectly normal over the short term that become pathological over the long term. Sadness, for example - he describes how before medication he would consider suicide daily, while now he can still feel sad, but it doesn't feel like this all-consuming ever-present companion. Anger too: it's normal to get angry, it's not normal to be angry. And loneliness, and drive, and even things like hope or rationality.
I remember describing to my therapist that I have this tendency to get super-obsessed with whatever I'm working on and block out everything for a couple days so that I can concentrate on it. Her first question was, "Do you return to your normal life at the end of those few days, or do you feel like it consumes you until you finish it?" When I said I usually return to normal after a bit, she was like, "Maybe that's just a personality trait of yourself that you have to learn to accept." It's (generally) not pathological if it's temporary, if you feel you have a "self" outside of the trait.
> Fry seems to talk in terms of "I just want to be left alone this lifetime."
There is a struggle -- not speaking for him but for myself -- between wanting companionship and wanting to be alone. I think my default state is, "I just want to be left alone", but every so once in a while all of the alone-ness (not loneliness per se, but all of the quiet and solitude and introspection and stillness that accompanies prolonged periods of being alone) kind of piles up and becomes too much to bear, and then I need to connect in some way with someone for a little while.
But, only a little while.
And, if I don't get to make that connection, then loneliness sets in: the feeling that I am no longer alone by choice, but rather that there is something wrong with me, something that is off-putting to other people. Then, I begin to feel unable to connect to others.
It is a damnable thing. I have tried all manner of approaches to "managing" it, to make it less pathological, but in the end I simply loathe the company of other people right up until I suddenly am desperate for it -- where it's too late and too difficult to get it because I don't maintain friendships and relationships the way that other people do.
That's a great way of putting into words something I've been dealing with my whole life as well, thank you. I hope that maybe knowing you're not alone in how you feel towards people might be of some solace.
That pretty much exactly describes me as well. Maybe not quite to the same degree. But the swinging back and forth between "I really need to have a connection with someone right now" and "I don't want to be around people right now" is something I feel too. And the painful difference between being alone when you want to be alone, by choice, and being alone when you don't want to, because you don't have anyone to talk to.
As far as managing it, I can't say much. I've found that reading blog posts and forums about loneliness tends to make things worse (not really a surprise there), and getting involved in a coding project makes things better (again not too surprising). I think it helps to have a small number of closer friends rather than a larger number of less close ones, because closer friendships can more easily survive lapses in communication. As for how to make close friendships, I'm quite bad at that. My only advice so far is: have conversations about difficult topics.
I've been seriously introverted all my life. So much, in fact, I had to leave school and self teach.
I love it as a slightly crippling yet awesome feature, even though I've been told it's a flaw (I don't agree).
There are a few things that help me out in the lows:
- I have 2 close friends. To destroy these friendships, planet earth needs to be blown up. But I don't go out very often with them.
To maintain this, we play almost daily for about an hour, dota2 or whatever else floats our boat. And then, I just log off skype. I'd play even if they weren't there. FOSS collaboration works just as well.
- Having a not too demanding girlfiend helps. Look for one so smart it cripples her.
I have also noticed that the more I need help in a situation, the harder it is to ask for it. The degree of difficulty is somehow connected to the degree of need and factors in my tolerance for disappointment.
> Normal introversion is "I just want to be left alone for a few hours", or at most, "I just want to be left alone this weekend".
I think there are a lot of introverts who would disagree. From my reading, introversion/extroversion is a broad spectrum. Many of us prefer not to engage socially much at all, to the point where it's the inverse of what you stated. Once in a while, I like to be around people for a few hours. Or at most a weekend.
There're a lot of personality traits that are perfectly normal over the short term that become pathological over the long term. Sadness, for example - he describes how before medication he would consider suicide daily, while now he can still feel sad, but it doesn't feel like this all-consuming ever-present companion. Anger too: it's normal to get angry, it's not normal to be angry. And loneliness, and drive, and even things like hope or rationality.
I remember describing to my therapist that I have this tendency to get super-obsessed with whatever I'm working on and block out everything for a couple days so that I can concentrate on it. Her first question was, "Do you return to your normal life at the end of those few days, or do you feel like it consumes you until you finish it?" When I said I usually return to normal after a bit, she was like, "Maybe that's just a personality trait of yourself that you have to learn to accept." It's (generally) not pathological if it's temporary, if you feel you have a "self" outside of the trait.