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I Broke My Phone’s Screen, and It Was Awesome (bunniestudios.com)
279 points by suraj on May 25, 2014 | hide | past | favorite | 112 comments


There's a cultural quirk buried in the article, when the technician uses his or her "very long thumbnail (in lieu of a spudger/guitar pick)."

Some Chinese men grow one fingernail quite long as a sign that they do not toil in the fields (else the nail would be broken)[1]. It has been for some time a symbol of high status. Yet here we see a long fingernail employed specifically to aid manual labor.

I now wonder if there are budget repair guys walking around Shenzhen appearing to show off their socioeconomic status but actually just hoping their nails don't break because it would make splitting open broken phones less convenient.

[1] http://www.vagabondjourney.com/why-chinese-men-grow-long-fin...


Interesting how a long fingernail can also imply cocaine usage.


It’s funny how many different connotations can be conveyed by something as simple as fingernails. The cocaine pinky, false nails in pornography, some varieties of massage, as a status symbol, and classical/flamenco guitar playing come to mind.


I find even moderately long nails make throwing pots on a pottery wheel nearly impossible to do (well). So you can add no-fingerprints + short nails to the list under potter.


Violinists and pianists also have to keep their finger nails clipped because nails get in the way of hitting the key/string properly. Interestingly, this is opposite to some guitar/banjo/mandolin players, who keep their nails long to help with picking, as mentioned above.

Add one more to the list!


This is the height of pedantry (and I apologize), but guitar/banjo/mandolin players are not really "opposite" to violinists--they all need to keep the fingernails of their fingerboard hands short. The difference is that the former may choose to keep the nails of their picking fingers long, whereas the fingernail length of a violinists' bow hand is almost inconsequential.


Well, the whole Sherlock Holmes magic is based on that.


In some SE Asian countries having a long nail is used to clean yourself after going to the toilet.


Or perhaps the author is a guitar or banjo picker.


Contrast this with my recent experience at the 14th Street and Fifth Avenue Apple Stores in New York.

Two weeks ago my Mac stopped booting. Made an appointment at the 14th Street Apple Store. Arrived 15 minutes early. Discovered there was a line to check in. That put you into a second line, the line to be seen by a "Genius". Forty-five minutes after my appointment time, I'm seen by someone with no intimate knowledge of my device. Laptop is checked in overnight.

Two days later, I receive my "fixed" Mac. SSD replaced, problem still there. Take it to the Fifth Avenue Apple Store at 4AM. This time I'm seen within 30 minutes of my appointment. "Genius" asks me to call phone support. Phone support insists Genius can solve the problem, asks to speak with Genius–nobody at store can find him. Thirty minutes later, phone support tells Genius what to do. Genius disappears into a back room, emerges 20 minutes later with the right tool. No clear answer as to what went wrong provided.

I am willing to pay for fast, smart solutions. Sometimes the brainpower is not available, and I accept that. Curious that I feel that brainpower would have been more amply available in the streets of Shenzhen than New York.


> Curious that I feel that brainpower would have been more amply available in the streets of Shenzhen than New York

...although perhaps not at 4AM, which is when you went? Not to play down the fact you had a pretty rough time of it, but the fact you could find someone to fix is at 4AM is to me an achievement in and of itself.


xobs and I have a game we like to play when we live in Shenzhen for extended periods -- it's called "let's buy a soldering iron at 2AM". We'll hack until some stupid late hour and then get hungry, and go out to find street food and "something else", e.g. soldering iron, spare parts, phones, power adapters, etc. in the street markets of Shenzhen. So far, we have not been disappointed. That city simply does not sleep.

This is in part because the EU and US is awake during Shenzhen's nighttime, and if people waited until the morning to fill all the orders coming their way, they'd have to spend all day catching up.


That game sounds like a lot of fun. What's the trickiest/most obscure item you've been able to locate?


Valid hypothesis. Curiously, I have had better service then than during the crowded afternoons and evenings.

While my Mac was acting up, my iPhone also had issues. The first replacement I got had a logic board issue (continuous blue screen reboots). The evening Genius dismissed me after a restart. The 8AM Genius actually ran diagnostics.


Did you use http://getsupport.apple.com to book your appointment? You can choose Take-in to book the appointment. You can also schedule a call back.


4am!? Are stores in NYC open 24 hours a day?


The 5th Ave. store is open 24/7, 365 days a year.

https://www.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/


Actually I have a guy here in Shenzhen, also at Hua Qiang Bei who does board level repairs (with guarantee)on Macs for a fraction of what it costs to have the local Apple place swap out the whole thing. Shenzhen really is a Maker paradise.


Not curious at all. In Shenzhen and many parts of east Asia many young guys are really find of computers and hardware, and they are fighting hard for their daily bowl of rice.


You mean Ninth Avenue?


Shenzhen, and particularly the Huaqiangbei area, is a great place to be if you're into electronics in general. Components are cheap and plentiful, and so are component-level repair shops. "Fixed while you wait (and watch)" is the norm, and some of the more popular shops have lineups of people waiting with their tablets/laptops/desktops/etc. in need of repair. A friend had his laptop's chipset reballed there (the nVidia one that was famous for failing early.) Very different experience than in the West.

Bunnie has been there before:

http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=283

http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=147


I've been to Shenzhen (and specifically, the mobile phone markets) a few times.

Two impressions stuck with me...

First, I don't trust anything I buy anymore. If you buy a mobile phone on ebay, or if you buy one on amazon and it isn't fulfilled directly by the manufacturer, I don't think you can have any assurance that it is truly a brand new, factory produced device. I saw stall after stall after stall of women with long spools of holographic tape and "genuine nokia" stickers by the thousands who were brazenly re-wrapping and resealing both batteries and "new" devices. Bunnie speaks of the value of his spare parts, but the box and the manual would probably have been of equal value.

Second, I was surprised by the near total absence of anything truly interesting ... I spent 2.5 days looking for any tools or devices related to osmocom/openBTS/openBSC ... sim cloning, sim tracing, IMSI catching ... development kits or test hardware... and I saw not even a trace of this. I was also keeping my eyes open for any kind of console modding / console hacking and didn't see any of this either. I'm sure you could get your xbox chipped there, but beyond that ...

I'll be back soon ... I'd love to be proven wrong that there's nothing bleeding edge being hacked together around the phone-marts...


>A friend had his laptop's chipset reballed there

Sounds like he got scammed. Reballing only is a temporary few months at the most fix. Its not the pcb-bga contact that fails, its the silicon-bga package that has the problem. Reballing heats up whole chip and by accident reseals broken solder joints directly under the silicon. Those joints will crack again because NVIDIA used bad glue that gets plastic under heat stress.

The only way to fix bad Nvidia GPU is to replace it with a brand new one from the fixed batch with new glue formula.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjmBv6nvUOM


Worked well enough, he didn't mention any problems and I heard he'd sold the laptop over a year later. The reball was ridiculously cheap too.


Scammed unless he knows this and just wanted the machine fixed to at least recover everything


I wish I had more adventures like this one, but I've found one of the things that holds me back is the language barrier. I don't speak any of Mandarin, Korean, or Japanese (I wouldn't be surprised if bunnie does, given how brilliant he is), and I worry that not being able to communicate effectively rules out serendipitous moments like these.

For others here, did you learn Chinese (or Spanish, or Arabic, or Russian) to assist you in your travels? I've always found learning computer languages easy, but human languages frustratingly difficult for me (different muscles, I know).


Just go. I just went to Shenzen last month. I don't speak a word of Chinese. It really helps that you can go to Hong Kong (where you can get by with English) first and cross the border by train/car. If you change your mind, it's easy to come back.

Crossed the border, got a SIM card with a data plan. Browsed wikitravel, showed taxi driver the characters for where I wanted to go. Then just take another taxi ride to a hotel from google maps, reception spoke English. Rest of the trip went similarly. Had no problems.


Years ago some non-Chinese speaking friends come back with lots of cheap pen drives from know brand with the case boasting lots of gigabytes. Upon close inspection they only had 256mb flash chip and a firmware that reported 999Tb... They just created the partition the size the case said. Of course those were the least worse scam they feel to. As in other cases (cellphones, batteries, etc) they got even Less than a 256mb pen drive out in the end.


Yes, just go. But you should add that the traveler must be ready to let things go, when traveling in deep China without knowing Chinese. And to be confident. Then serendipity will not be just another trendy word.


And try not to achieve anything on an expected timeframe. Allow for delays; missed trains because you couldn't find a platform or taxis going to the wrong place because your directions were vague, etc.


I wouldn't be surprised if bunnie does, given how brilliant he is

He is brilliant, but having Chinese parents probably helped :)

http://www.xenatera.com/bunnie/history.html


I had a similar experience as the author I broke my cell phone in Chongqing, China. If you have a chance to go to China, I highly recommend it. The society is just so different there, and it's incredible in so many ways.

You may be able to do it without speaking Chinese, but it would be much more difficult, and I'd be afraid of mutual misunderstanding of what I wanted the repairperson to do.

I learned the basics of Chinese before I went to the country, and took an intensive course in Mandarin the first time I went there.

I think learning a new programming language is more about logic. There's not a lot of memorization, but you need practice (some need it more than others) to make the connections. After learning one programming language, other languages may have different structures, but the logic required is not all that different.

In my experience learning Chinese, there's no shortcut to putting the hours in and memorizing vocabulary. I think this is even more true for Chinese than most other languages.

Learning a new programming language is difficult mentally. Learning a new human language is extremely tedious, but I think anybody can do it if they put in enough time.


    I think this is even more true for Chinese than most other languages.
Commonsense indicates the difficulty of learning a language doesn't depend solely on the language in question, but on how similar it is to languages you already know. An extreme example is that if you already speak Mandarin, learning Mandarin is a no-op. As a less extreme example, I'm sure that learning Mandarin is easier for a Cantonese speaker than for someone who only knows English and French.


Commonsense does suggest that, but I've heard such a wide variety of people with different linguistic backgrounds say that Mandarin was the hardest language they learnt that I'm inclined to believe there is some real underlying difference.


Well, considering that Chinese is mostly a linguistic isolate, that doesn't necessarily contradict the thesis. Japanese has a writing system and a lot of vocabulary borrowed from Chinese, and I know less about Korean but I think it also has plenty of vocabulary borrowed from Chinese. Do any of your friends natively speak one of those languages and still consider Mandarin more difficult than, say, English?


I'm a Chinese, and I can easily understand written kanji (one of the 3 Japanese writing systems) as it's essentially traditional Chinese characters, but the pronunciation is a whole different game altogether. From this I'm assuming that it's the same for Japanese speakers to recognise some Chinese characters, thus making it easier for them to learn.


In Japan, you learn both Japanese and Chinese readings for kanji. Except the Chinese readings in China are different to the ones in Japan. A lot of people thought I was strange when I was pointing things out on a menu, but couldn't say what they were. lol


Wait so the Chinese reading in Japan is different from the Chinese reading in China and most parts of the Chinese speaking world (ignoring the influences of accents)?

Can you provide an example please?


Here's some that are different:

    方法 (method)
    In Chinese:  fāngfǎ "FONG-fah"
    In Japanese: houhou "HOE-hoe"

    日常 (everyday, ordinary)
    In Chinese:  rìcháng "ZI-tchong"
    In Japanese: nichijou "NEE-chee-joe"

    七月 (July)
    In Chinese:  qīyuè "CHEE-yue"
    In Japanese: shichigatsu "SHEE-chee-gah-tsoo"
(Yes, 'shichigatsu' is seriously the Chinese reading of July; the Japanese reading would be 'nanatsuki'.)

And some that are similar:

    開始 (start)
    In Chinese:  kāishǐ "KAI-tsi"
    In Japanese: kaishi "kai-shee"

    第三 (third)
    In Chinese:  dìsān "dee-SAN"
    In Japanese: daisan "dai-san"
(Note that the pronunciation guide is somewhat approximate since certain sounds don't map well and English vowel pronunciation is a mess.)

I've heard that the Japanese on'yomi (Chinese) readings are generally closer to Old Chinese than modern Chinese is. Also, notice that Chinese is tonal and Japanese isn't.


Wow. So what are the times when one would choose one reading over another?


The general rule is: if there's a kun'yomi that fits, use the kun'yomi. Otherwise, use the on'yomi.

Most commonly, multiple kanji next to each other are on'yomi and single kanji are kun'yomi.


Natively no, but one of them had learned Japanese before and found Chinese much harder even having that prior vocabulary.


Take a look at AJATT: http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/All_Japanese_All_The_...

Although it was originally developed for Japanese, the basic concepts are not language-specific.


Chinese will probably take a good couple of thousand hours to learn solid basics. A new programming language probably less than fifty.


I just spent a six-month internship in Japan without speaking the language. People there are very polite and helpful. They will take as much time as necessary to understand what you want to say.

And while you're there you'll automatically learn some of the greetings and words in the local language. Try to apply what you've learned and they'll be delighted to see you try to speak the language.

If you ever get the chance to see the world, don't let something like a language barrier hold you back. Just go.


I knew about a few hours worth of Korean before I spent the next 2 years there. Granted, a few hours of Korean can be very useful since there's a limited alphabet, like English, and just knowing how to read the words is hugely helpful, even if you don't know what they mean. This is because a lot of time they're just English loan words in disguise in Korean characters.

I did start Korean classes a few days into my trip (first time was study abroad) which set the stage for later. But I didn't know it going in, no.


>This is because a lot of time they're just English loan words in disguise in Korean characters.

I was practising my Hangul by reading the signs between Seoul and where I was staying out the bus window. The very first sign I read fully was "Noodle House", it was vaguely disappointing.


I wouldn't let that set you back. All you need is a sense of adventure mixed with equal amounts of common sense and money. I got round SK/Japan with a few basic words that I made sure to learn to at least try to be polite.


Well bunnie is Singaporean, and most if not all Singaporeans can speak Mandarin (not a linguist but Chinese is more of the language, and Mandarin the dialect, albeit the "official" dialect for the language).


If there's not a very specific context for "Chinese", then it means Mandarin (this is true in Chinese itself: you can refer to Mandarin by its official name 普通话 putonghua, "common speech", but the most common term is 中文 zhongwen "chinese", the language of 中国 zhongguo "china").

Saying Chinese is more of the language and Mandarin the dialect is somewhat akin to calling European the language (lest you think that ridiculous, note that this precise phenomenon occurs in Africa, where european languages are often referred to generically as white-ese[1]), and Greek the dialect.

[1] http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=20


I do understand that when people refer to Chinese it means Mandarin. However, if Mandarin is a language does that mean that Hokkien, Foochow, Cantonese, Hakka, etc are languages too?

I don't think the way I described it in the grandparent post above is entirely accurate as well, but how I've always seen it is that the written words forms the Chinese language, whereas the different way people pronounces it (not talking about accents here) and orders them are the dialects.


> if Mandarin is a language does that mean that Hokkien, Foochow, Cantonese, Hakka, etc are languages too?

What distinguishes one from the other?

> how I've always seen it is that the written words forms the Chinese language, whereas the different way people pronounces it (not talking about accents here) and orders them are the dialects

Then, before the development of kana, was Japanese also a chinese dialect? Korean before hangeul?

If I wrote the english sentence "how old are you?" as 多老是你?, would that make english a dialect of Chinese? If I wrote 你多大? as "ni duo da?", would mandarin stop being a chinese dialect?

If you imagine two illiterate people, one of whom speaks mandarin and the other cantonese, do neither know any language at all, due to being illiterate?


> What distinguishes one from the other?

The drastically different way you pronounce a word, or even the choice of words. Well for example for the sentence "I feel very cold". Mandarin: wo jue de heng leng Hokkien: wa chi tio jin na leng Teochew: wa chi tio jin nga ngang etc...

> Then, before the development of kana, was Japanese also a chinese dialect? Korean before hangeul? > If I wrote the english sentence "how old are you?" as 多老是你?, would that make english a dialect of Chinese? If > I wrote 你多大? as "ni duo da?", would mandarin stop being a chinese dialect? > If you imagine two illiterate people, one of whom speaks mandarin and the other cantonese, do neither know any language at all, due to being illiterate?

I do understand what you're saying, and I do agree with you regarding the examples above. But then how would you explain the relationship between Chinese, Mandarin, Hokkien, Hakka, Teochew, etc in terms of language vs. dialect?


This has become a response of some length, so I'll put a quick summary up front:

- From the perspective of linguistics, a "language" and a "dialect" are essentially the same thing; which word is used is a political question, not a scientific one.

- One common method of assigning different meanings to "language" vs "dialect" is to say that if person A and person B can communicate using A-speak and B-speak, then A-speak and B-speak are both dialects of the same language. On this approach, Mandarin and Cantonese are separate languages, and e.g. Beijinghua is a dialect of Mandarin.

---------

I understand that Mandarin, Minnan, Wu, Yue, etc etc etc aren't all the same thing. That wasn't what I meant. If the question is "are Mandarin and Cantonese the same language?", it's easy to demonstrate, e.g. by having two people attempt to communicate, that they aren't.

Consider an alternative question, "are Mandarin Chinese and my quilt the same thing?" It should be clear that they aren't. Furthermore, they aren't even the same kind of thing -- one is a quilt, and one is, in the context of comparing it to a quilt, clearly a language. We can distinguish the language from the quilt by many tests: one has a physical instantiation (the quilt), and from that many ancillary properties like color, weight, size, rigidity, and so forth; the language is more of a hypothetical concept with no physical object that represents it, but can be conceived of as a tool for communication much as the quilt is a tool for keeping warm. All normal humans over the age of four "possess" one or more languages; many lack quilts.

So, if we keep the question "is this thing that I'm considering a language, or not?" in our minds... the point of my earlier rhetorical question is that there is no distinction to be drawn between Cantonese and Mandarin that would be relevant to that question. Any evidence you adduce to support the idea that Mandarin is a language will apply just as well to Cantonese, and vice versa.

> But then how would you explain the relationship between Chinese, Mandarin, Hokkien, Hakka, Teochew, etc in terms of language vs. dialect?

"Dialect", like "species", is not a perfectly well-defined concept. Some people (not me) like the ecological species concept (which I will rudely characterize as "two animals are the same species if an ecologist tells you so"), and some (most) prefer the biological species concept, which says that two animals are the same species if they can mate and produce viable, fertile offspring (as far as I can tell, the requirement of a single generation of fertility is there specifically to stop donkeys and horses from being the same species under this concept; the occasional fertile mule is handled by the traditional fingers-in-the-ears method).

Analogously, it's common to say that two, um, "modes of speaking" A and B are dialects of the same language if a person speaking A can carry on a conversation with a partner speaking B. By this view, a "language" is a very abstract concept, less physically real than a "dialect" in the same way that a dialect is less physically real than a quilt. The way any person speaks, which though massless is something you can measure in the world, is a dialect, and a language is a group of dialects which are all mutually intelligible.

Like the biological species concept, this has some issues; for example, it tends to suggest that Spanish and Italian are dialects of the same language. This is felt to be politically unfortunate, but from a facts-based perspective things could be a lot worse -- Spanish and Italian are known to be closely related, both recent descendants of Latin.

So to answer your question:

"Chinese" is a term with no clear meaning, usually synonymous with Mandarin. The structure of the word indicates that it refers to the language of China, but as there's more than one that's not very useful. Mandarin, Yue, Wu, Min, Hakka and so on are all "languages" (or "language families"), and Shanghaihua is a dialect of Wu, Beijinghua is a dialect of Mandarin, Guangdonghua is a dialect of Yue, etc. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varieties_of_Chinese

All of these language families share an obvious (well, depending on your perspective) similarity because they descend from Middle Chinese, just as French and Italian share similarity because of their common descent from Latin.


Interesting. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to explain.


With Lonely Planet's Mandarin Phrase Book, you can get by.


One interesting aspect of replacement is the difference between a good rework job and a bad rework job is typically environmental sealing. Does the case still snap perfectly tightly, with sealant/gaskets, if any, around the borders etc?

This is useful advice not just for people doing it themselves, but to evaluate a shops ability to do rework. If its a busy shop catch a guy leaving with a replacement and ask to see some completed work.

There is an analogy with programming where a mere "it compiled" is not exactly the pinnacle of all possible compliments.


Same deal here in Bolivia, you break something chances are someone somewhere in Los Cachis can fix it for you inexpensively.

For example my Kindle 1st gen charging port was no longer snapping the connector cable correctly - I took it in and for 20Bs ($3) they fixed a soldered part that had come loose with the ins-and-outs of the charging cable.


I did this myself for my Nokia Lumia 920. Same fault - the glass cracked but the digitizer and display were fine. Hair dryer, tweezers and a ton of patience. It took me four hours though, but it was a complete success.

If you're planning on doing this yourself, don't be tempted to buy an unbranded replacement - they may be fakes or poor quality reproductions (not gorilla glass, digitizer inaccurate, etc.) - My phone was a developer device but I replaced the screen with an AT&T branded one. The branded screens are usually genuine.


Simply obtaining branded hardware can be difficult -- I recently had to replace the full assembly on my Nexus 4, and in the process had 2 orders out of Shenzhen seized by customs, while a 3rd out of HK successfully shipped. This was all due to an LG logo that was only visible on the back of the part.


Why were they seized?


My understanding is the seller didn't have the appropriate paperwork to export hardware bearing an LG logo.


It sounds like you actually pried the glass off the digitizer. Is this the case? I've not tried this kind of repair yet, but I have a spare iphone here to attempt it on.


This post hints at one of the great advantages of being close to suppliers. When you're that close to the supply source, you gain all sorts of advantages like:

a) You can typically find the person actually building the damn thing, and ask about it.

b) You can probably get your hands on a large set of cheap, defective parts to play around with.

c) You can get your hands on the actual parts really cheap.

b and c together vastly reduces the cost of experimentation, and more importantly, reduces the cost of screwing up.

This is some of what you lose when you become just the end node of the supply chain. This is the type of 'magic' that some people speak about when they talk about when 'America (or insert your choice of western democratic country) built things'.


This is also a hardware metaphor for the concept of "open source" software.


The hairdryer as heat-gun method was first shown to me by an incredibly gifted Electrical Engineer (from China) who used this method to fix dry joints on PCBs (including consumer mainboards).

It was astounding the first time I saw a dead MB revived with nothing more than a bathroom accessory!


In reverse, I have used a heat shrink heat gun to make an awesome toasted cheese sandwich on a lonely night shift.


Sounds like quite a feat considering hair dryer wont produce more than 50-60'C and solder needs >180'C to even start thinking about melting.

Hair dryer in Bunnies case was used to heat up the GLUE between glass and screen.


You're almost certainly right, I've not had success with it myself, and I originally thought the same, but I've heard anecdotal evidence from others that it's worked for them, and there are a few mentions of it online, including a video at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6840/hardware-tricks-can-you-f... , but I've also found mentions that the likely cause of the hair dryer trick is old capacitors being temporarily "revived" by the heat (http://www.instructables.com/id/Fix-a-dead-power-supply-usin...). It seems like something is being at least temporarily repaired by the heat, but it's probably not anything to do with solder.


Just partially block the air intakes. It'll get hot fast. Just be careful it doesn't start to melt inside.


no it wont, there is a thermal cutoff inside


Hmm. I've got one here I use for heat-shrink tuning I used masking tape on to lower airflow and boost temp. I'm not sure its hot enough to melt solder (probably not) but its great for heat-shrink. I suppose a YMMV is in order.


If you remove thermal cutoff you will:

a/ burn the heater

b/ melt whole thing

c/ burn your house

a combination of those things.


That's pretty nice, but in the US at least, the digitizer alone is almost always never replaced because it is a fairly dangerous maneuver. [1]

Also, if you have the tools (and I would recommend buying a small electronics tool set to everyone, because it's a lot cheaper and funner to fix stuff yourself than to pay someone to fix it), then you can buy a complete LCD + digitizer for $36 on Amazon. [2]

[1]http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/111483/iPhone+5+cracked+g...

[2]http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Screen-Digitizer-Assembly-Repl...


It's hard to understand Shenzhen if you've not been there. I just returned from the Dangerous Prototypes Hackercamp in Shenzhen, and quite frankly, I don't think there is anyway you can fully comprehend what they can do there if you haven't seen it with your own eyes. Such things as replacing the glass are completely routine and done with incredible speed and precision. They have tools and techniques there not found anywhere else.

I ran into Ian and Jin from Dangerous Prototypes at the SF Bay MakerFaire last weekend where they were demonstrating the BGA reballing techniques we learned at the Land Mobile Repair School in Shenzhen. Ian told me that earlier in the Faire, a couple of Intel engineers stopped by to tell him that what he was doing was wrong, incorrect and impossible (or some combination thereof). He ran them through the process and left them agog, not only that the process developed by the Chinese (about $50USD in tools and supplies) was comparable to a $XX,000 reballing machine, but that they'd never seen or heard of these techniques before. They were throwing away prototypes worth thousands of dollars instead of fixing the problem because they didn't have proper reballing machines/jigs.

It is well worth the trip to Shenzhen if only to see them disassemble a phone completely and refurb it faster than imaginable. Ian hopes to make HCS a regular event and I highly recommend it!


For someone without the contacts, can you recommend a way to plug-in to the scene? This hackercamp sounds interesting .. any more on the way?


Not all phones are so stuck-together as the iPhone, though. I cracked the glass my Lumia 920 and I'm considering just replacing the digitizer. The replacement is $15 on Amazon compared to $45 for the screen.


When I repair phones, I always replace the digitizer and the LCD, firstly because it is too difficult to separate them, but secondly because buying the LCD+Digitizer as one unit isn't that much more expensive than buying the digitizer on its own.


The shop is apparently in the business of refurbishing the units. That should be helping keep your prices low...


I didn't have the same luck with a nexus 7 couple of months ago. It fell from a small night table and the screen shattered (the digitizer still works). I did the same process as the post explained and I got a replacement in Amazon ($60 and $6 for the tape), but for some reason it didn't work. The broken screen used to work, but now I only hear noise when I turn it on, but no image. I think I made a mistake when I was removing the graphic ribbon, who knows. Now I feel like I don't want to put more money and time into it. It's great a company like that recycle everything, just separating the digitizer takes a lot of work.


FTA:

> I had originally assumed that the glass on the digitizer is inseparable from the OLED, but apparently those clever folks in Hua Qiang Bei have figured out an efficient method...

There is a large amount of skill involved. I saw a designer take apart a smartphone to use the digitizer in a "looks like works like" prototype. Getting the glue off and otherwise dissembling a smartphone screen without breaking anything is not easy! It's not meant to be repairable. And this guy is a wizard at building prototypes.


I've got the iFixit repair kit. So far I've used it to repair a kindle hdx, a samsung android device, and an iphone 5c. Basically I just wait until a friend breaks their device and fix it for free. I got a free kindle fire HD out of the deal anyway. I don't ask for money since it's usually friends. I've also used it to replace the battery in my lenovo p500 which does not have a removable battery i.e. you must crack it open.


Does anyone here get anything useful to happen by dialing ∗#0∗# on an iPhone? I just get the message "Error performing request: Unknown Error"


I don't have an iphone handy, but I bet if you google "iPhone USSD" you'll get some pointers.


> This is the power of recycling and repair — instead of paying $120 for a screen and throwing away what is largely a functional piece of electronics, I just had to pay for the cost of just replacing the broken glass itself.

Some level of replace-ability should be enforced by law. There should be universal interchangeable types of batteries. Board self-test should be available and so on.


That's not how engineering works. There are good designs that can't be achieved while making things replaceable. For example, the reason screen glass often isn't replaceable is because it's optically bonded to the underlying LCD, which improves sharpness, reduces glare, and reduces parallax when using a pen. The reason batteries usually can't be replaced is that it saves space and weight to use naked Li-Poly battery packs molded to the available space. Making say a back case removal reduces structural rigidity and reduces space available for a battery. That's engineering--making trade-offs between features people may not care about in favor of features they care more about.


Most phone batteries are electrically compatible, just not physically compatible. I have used Droid phone batteries to power HTC phones by holding the battery in place against the contacts, even though it didn't fit into the phone at all.

On the engineering side, we should push for standards, and for components which operate the same at higher and lower volatges (2.0v, 2.2v, 3.0v, 3.5v, 5.0v, etc) where possible.


There are standards, but 3.5v isn't one. Big waste of power though to run a 1.2V part at 5.0V, and transistor geometry to make it capable of that. Most FPGA and some micros have separate rails for I/O and a low voltage core, like 1.2V.


Most people could stand slightly thicker phones. We are dumping huge amounts of toxic stuff because phones are designed for planned obsolescence. If there were pressure to use replaceable or upgradeable parts then we would see thinner phones with these traits, but without that pressure we are going to get more planned obsolescence. That's engineering too.


Inability to repair is not planned obsolescence.


Sure in some cases engineering is the reason, but then some manufacturers put pentalobe screws on their phones to make things as difficult as possible for the consumer to look inside the products that they paid for.


Anyone who can't find a pentalobe screwdriver will do more harm than good with an open case.


How many people would have had one in their house before Apple introduced them on the iPhone?


Because buying a $1 screwdriver is really such a huge problem...


So was there an engineering reason that Apple chose them?


Well, if it was an attempt at stopping people from opening their hardware,then it was a rather poor one.


I presume you would advocate this new law in hopes that it would drive up the feasibility of repairs, therefore lowering costs to consumers. But it won't do that: it will increase costs (and reduce revenues) to manufacturers who will happily pass those costs on to consumers, and the only people who will come out ahead will be the lawyers.

Also, you do not want a phone made by the government.


This amounts to a legal ban on innovation that doesn't fit the current template. It also increases costs.

(The EU charger standard is a good example: it works very well at eliminating the stupid proliferation of chargers which end up in landfill or WEEE, but not everyone is happy with micro-USB and arguably it's now the weak point in many phones which causes them to break early)


The three times I've broken phone screens it's always the OLED/LCD display that popped and the digitizer just sat there and grinned at me having protected sod all. I've replaced them all myself and it's been pretty easy on all devices and very cheap. The OLED/LCD displays all came from ebay.


I was curious about the diagnostic code mentioned * # 0 * #

I tried it and the phone did seem to go into some diagnostic mode and showed "please wait" for about 5 seconds, then just stopped with "Unknown Error" Sad.


I guess it takes skills @dannyrohit

I have tried to replace the set on an ipod touch in the past. Didn't succeed. Screwed up taking the face/body assembly apart.


I don't fully get Bunnie's point. I got my 3gs' screen replaced for £30 here in the UK (over the post though)


There's no better place than any oversaturated labor market to get cheap labor! How uplifting.


Can you replace the iPhone LCD screen with an OLED display?


Technically yes, there's nothing stopping you from that. However you have to find a suitable display assembly of the same size and with the same connector.


Video of the process for anyone curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZwypAINYE


Maybe I'm just grumpy since I haven't had coffee yet this morning, but why is this worthy of being #1 on HN? Author got a part replaced on his phone. Wow.


Here's why I find it interesting. We live in a world (in the west) where our gadgets are a big part of our lives, and yet we're pretty helpless when anything goes wrong with them. We use these pocket-sized supercomputers for the most mundane tasks, and compared to the rest of the world, we live a life of leisure.

This piece is interesting because it's a nice short story that gives a great sense of place. To me, it feels like Blade Runner. There's a society of people that can repair a $500 smartphone like it was reattaching rubber to a boot. They possess advanced repair skills, but belong to a class that would be doing menial labor here in America.


They are doing menial labor in China as well (being paid nearly nothing),

And most of us here can't reattach rubber to a boot either.


Yes, that was my point -- though I worded it poorly.


In case you are wondering most of them (probably >90%) dont know how those gadgets work either. They are taught procedures (there are whole repair technicians schools in China), not operation theory.

For example they can diagnose which part on a laptop motherboard is broken by observing current draw/time when booting and looking up answer in the notes (notes made by real engineer or guessed/bruteforced by another tinkerer). This way unqualified worker can tell you in under 30 second what needs to be replaced on a phone/tablet/laptop PCB. Its like a human powered repair database lookup machine, they are all working from the script. You could say they are all Indian DELL phone support line :)

Im not saying its bad, its just how it works.


I just try to keep in mind that eventually the Morlocks end up eating the Eloi.




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