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> "Matz is nice and therefore we are nice"

This non sequitur annoys me. Deconstructing it:

* A: "Matz is nice": Let's say we all agree this is true.

* B: "we are nice": i.e., the ruby community is nice.

* P(A -> B): (A therefore B) is a slogan, so I assume the proposition P is believed to be true. Is it?

In order for P to be true, the only option is for B to be true as long as Matz keeps being nice. Assuming Matz is still good-natured, is not hard to find counterexamples for B (every big community have some less-than-nice people). So the facts tell us that P is false.

Alternatively, if you assume that Matz is not nice, then, without mattering if "we" are nice or not, the slogan holds true (modus ponens [1]).

Anyway, my point is that the slogan is as silly as this rant :p.

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_ponens#Justification_via_...



I don't understand the original quote to be a proposition. I think what it's trying to say is "Matz is nice so we too aspire to be nice". It's not descriptive, it's perscriptive.


I think the intent was more along the lines of "Matz is nice and therefore we should be nice", but in making it shorter and snappier it now uses a more ambiguous piece of the English language.




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