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That makes no sense whatsoever. If the law is unethical then so are the consequences of that law.

This is like saying that laws against homesexuality may be unethical, but trying to avoid being punished for being gay is wrong.


The Socratic position of accepting judicial punishment doesn't make sense if you have anything you want to do with your life other than making a political point. If you think making that point, with its immense opportunity cost, is the most important remaining thing you can do, fine, but you can't assume everyone is at that place in their lives.

I don't think someone should be expected to sacrifice everything on principle in order to be justified in refusing to comply with an unjust law.


> "The Socratic position of accepting judicial punishment doesn't make sense if you have anything you want to do with your life other than making a political point."

More than that, it also doesn't hold water if you consider the possibility that sacrificing yourself isn't the best way to further your political goals.

Even if your cause is more important than everything else in your life combined, you should not allow yourself to be neutralized (jailed, or made to commit suicide) if it does not further your goal to a greater extent than anything else you could do. "Live to fight another day" is in full effect in nearly all situations.


Great point. What I find interesting is that in the case of Socrates one may convincingly argue that the trade was, in fact, positive.


Sometimes being a martyr can further your cause more than you could do alive.


It would be very convenient for the establishment if every revolutionary was obliged to throw themselves upon a pyre....


A friend of mine once commented that high treason is one of the only crimes on the books where the penalty for attempting it is infinitely higher than for succeeding, mainly because if you do succeed, you are then in charge of the country.


Was your friend Shakespeare?


Not last time I checked. I didn't know that this was from Shakespeare. I wonder where Shakespeare first heard it.

edit - And just in case you are reading. Hi Ben, are you really Shakespeare in a wig?




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