You're getting down-voted because people probably disagree. (don't worry I threw you a bone...but for the future, pls don't ask why you're getting downvoted)
Anyway, IMHO the signal:noise ratio is MUCH better in Rails. Are there bad Rails people out there? Absolutely, but to the OP's point, there is a much large proportion of Rails developers who take their job seriously as a professional than those who do it for small freelancing gigs, for the lulz, etc. Furthermore, many of the issues that you have to teach traditional PHP developers, are "solved problems" by those in other languages/frameworks (Laravel/Symfony are good examples of where those problems are solved).
> Any respectable PHP developer nowadays uses a decent framework, and there are many. It's pretty easy to discern who's legit and who's not by whether or not they use/understand these frameworks.
This is exactly the OP's point. It's not that "any respectable PHP developer" doesn't exist, it's that weeding through all of the shitty ones to find them is much harder than people who specialize in other technologies.
It was merely a reminder of this portion of the site guidelines[0]:
"Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
Guidelines are important for online communities and sometimes worth explicitly reminding people of.
Personally, I think asking "why am I being downvoted" is better than just complaining, because sometimes it elicits a useful response. It would also be nice if the guidelines were more clear on whether downvotes should be used for disagreement or more like "this comment was made in bad faith".
Anyway, IMHO the signal:noise ratio is MUCH better in Rails. Are there bad Rails people out there? Absolutely, but to the OP's point, there is a much large proportion of Rails developers who take their job seriously as a professional than those who do it for small freelancing gigs, for the lulz, etc. Furthermore, many of the issues that you have to teach traditional PHP developers, are "solved problems" by those in other languages/frameworks (Laravel/Symfony are good examples of where those problems are solved).
> Any respectable PHP developer nowadays uses a decent framework, and there are many. It's pretty easy to discern who's legit and who's not by whether or not they use/understand these frameworks.
This is exactly the OP's point. It's not that "any respectable PHP developer" doesn't exist, it's that weeding through all of the shitty ones to find them is much harder than people who specialize in other technologies.