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I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%, but it is possible to use them and I am using them from time to time without problems.


The existence of optional secret chats used by nobody, not implemented by apps and actively discouraged by UI, seems like a particularly shit excuse for what Telegram is doing.


> used by nobody

I use it, so it isn't nobody.

> not implemented by apps

It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones.

> actively discouraged by UI

How is this actively discouraging? https://img.gadgethacks.com/img/original/18/79/6363832577010...


https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram

>Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line

Why are you defending these fraudsters?

>I use it, so it isn't nobody.

Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%"

>It's implemented by the Android and iOS apps, which are the most used ones.

Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all.

>How is this actively discouraging?

Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that? Is it because of Durovs superior encryption technology?

You simply can't justify that button.


> Why are you defending these fraudsters?

Them being fraudsters doesn't make all of your allegations true.

> Don't play silly word games, you just said "I would guess that usage is definitely below 1%"

So? 0.1% is below 1% and would still correspend to ~200000 users. That is NOT nobody.

> Ah, so it'll only fail to work 30% of the time? That's not terrible UX at all.

Source for the 30%?

> Why do you have to press a button to chat securely, when the "less secure" WhatsApp does not require that?

It's a trade-off. WhatsApp / Telegram's secure-chats are lacking other features Telegram's non-secure chats have.




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