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You're talking entirely about a different computer and a different time. A new Macbook Pro (such as one he might buy) comes with a much better operating system, can run Windows programs side by side, has the same processor and graphics card as leading PC counterparts, does not cost $3,000 ($1599 with Student Developer discount), has an LED Glossy option versus fluorescent matte, has more mac native apps and dev tools than ever, gives many more reasons to use it for programming like for the iPhone, as well as opportunities to create web apps in ROR, Django, and other web frameworks that did not exist at the time that now need to be tested on a Mac since it also happens to have much greater marketshare. All of this means that his computer might last for more years than before, since the hardware is already top of the line compared not just to mac machines released a year prior, but to high end pc laptops, as well, which means he might as well get the MacBook Pro.


> You're talking entirely about a different computer and a different time

I know, just as it'll change again in the next 3 years.

> A new Macbook Pro (such as one he might buy) comes with...

Most of these things come with a standard MacBook, too, so why not buy a MacBook?

Some of the things that MacBook doesn't have that the MBP does:

> $1599 with Student Developer discount

Actually, it's $1799, but that doesn't factor in taxes, which bring it to about retail, or $2000, and that's without any configuration options (the one I bought, spec'ed out again, is still $3000).

(By the way, If you're looking to buy a Mac, look at the Amazon discount over Apple's store: with free shipping and no taxes, it's almost always cheaper.)

> LED Glossy options versus fluorescent matte

True.

> All of this means that his computer might last for more years than before, since the hardware is already top of the line compared not just to mac machines released a year prior, but to high end pc laptops, as well

I guess it's whether or not you're willing to make that bet or not.

> which means he might as well get the MacBook Pro.

Or, he could save a lot of money, get an equivalent machine for his needs, and buy a new one every year and still not spend as much.


>> LED Glossy options versus fluorescent matte

>True.

False. The matte screen is LED and its unclear from the specs whether the glossy is LED or fluorescent.

From apple.com: "15.4-inch (diagonal) antiglare widescreen TFT LED backlit display with support for millions of colors; optional glossy widescreen display"


Maybe I'm old fashioned, but typing "macbook pro led glossy" into Google shows the answer.


Ah, thanks. Well then I guess I can't give that one to him.


I said Student Developer discount, not Student discount.

The Student Developer discount price is $1599, the student price is $1799.


OK, so $1800ish after taxes.

You can still get a MacBook for half that, which has everything else you mentioned, so why not get a MacBook and upgrade twice as often? (With resale value, you'll be way on top.)


I calculate $1678 after taxes, a savings of $421. I thought the same thing as you and bought a MacBook for $999 but returned it because it was slower, dimmer, smaller, and more mirror-like than my glossy MacBook Pro while weighing the same and looking like a children's toy.

What ultimately caused me to return it was trying to run a 3D plugin of a scene in a drawing program. It was unbelievably slow, while I remembered how well a Dell m1330 ran, which has the same integrated video chipset, Intel's X3100. I researched that either Apple or Intel had crappy video drivers on the Mac for that chipset, which meant it was already behind the times out of the box, never mind in two years.

And with the discount, the MacBook Pro might even be sold for a profit after 3-6 months in the worst case scenario (since including taxes it's worth $2,100), but the same MacBook at either Student Developer or Student price would likely be sold for a loss.


Great points. Thanks :)




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