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> So vote for my party or you don't deserve healthcare? What an enlightened liberal world view.

What a silly mischaracterization of my point. That point being that actions have consequences, and sometimes unintended consequences.

Since you seem to be taking a "tribal" approach to this, I'll flip things on their head. Voters (again, generally of course) in some urban areas have decided addressing inequalities in criminal prosecutions are more important than reducing crime. For example, if you elect a prosecutor who broadcasts that they won't prosecute shoplifting below $1000, you shouldn't be surprised if then many people take it as the green light to take $999 worth of stuff whenever they feel like it.

In the Idaho example I gave, voters got exactly what they wanted, which was a forced birth legal system. But they shouldn't be surprised that most obgyns, even very conservative ones, are not willing to work in a state that puts them in severe legal jeopardy for providing health care.


A 'tribal' approach is not my intention, it was a reaction to the clear tribalism in your initial post. Your point on obgyns is well taken and in that specific instance you can point to a pretty clear cause and effect- Local laws are hostile to certain segment of healthcare workers so they don't want to stay- fair enough. But thats just one small segment of healthcare workers, and the financial issues in the article we are discussing don't seem to be related to that specific point. More broadly, what I take issue with is this attitude of "If you don't support universal healthcare you don't deserve healthcare' that seems so pervasive. It's an extremely complex issue and there are many rational reasons to oppose universal healthcare. Some like myself do not have a moral or philosophical issue with the policy, but instead are concerned that the current system is a tangled web of cronyism and cartels, and socializing a system like that will only exacerbate healthcare costs as a whole since the bad actors will only become more entrenched. Does that position make me unworthy of having a functioning hospital in my area?


Obamacare won't fix it because it's a gutted compromise. Universal healthcare (which is the only way to get around private insurers not paying out, and not tying healthcare spending to income) is a non starter in this country and it's entirely due to one political faction. It's accurate to blame them for this.




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