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As absolutely ridiculous (and illegal) as this advice is, if you find a way for inanimate objects to "detect that they have been stolen" I'd imagine you'll become wealthy enough that you won't need to worry about it.


I don't see anything illegal. It would be a device intended for my use, not the police's use, and I'm happy with the way it is constructed, therefore I purchase it and own it. If you steal it, you assume all liabilities thereof.

See similar: https://skunklock.com/


For all intents and purposes, booby traps are illegal 100% of the time regardless of the reason for their construction or the damage they cause. A booby trap that squirts water is as illegal as one that fires bullets, and one that misses someone is as illegal as one that hits someone (although hitting someone opens you up to other charges but unrelated to the booby trap).

This is a pretty good example of arguing from the way you feel like the law should be written rather than how it's actually written.

Just to be clear - this is not really up to judgment or interpretation, you are just completely wrong. So I wouldn't do anything based on this (very incorrect) reading of law.


So Mark Rober is just getting away with breaking the law and publicly posting his lawbreaking exploits on YouTube? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgeXOVaJo_gnexNopBzUK...

To be clear: that could be what's going on here. But I suspect the law on this topic is a bit more subtle than this comment suggests.


He has admitted those videos are 100% staged with hired actors.

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/a8848z/mark_robers...


I believe your summary of that Reddit comment is overly-broad: he admitted two of the videos involved a friend-of-a-friend volunteer that he was "unaware" had staged the theft. The thread then goes on to do some heavy extrapolating based on that thin evidence.


Yes. He's just doing it in such a way that the legal system feels little to no impetus to intervene.

In practical terms, the legal hazard to such a trap is the possibility that one of two things happens:

1. You injure the target in a way you didn't intend, such as causing an eye injury with a glitter bomb, which gets the attention of authorities.

2. Someone who isn't the target inadvertently sets it off and is sufficiently pissed off to seek legal redress.


Booby traps are incredibly illegal, even if they're "non-injurious" by your personal definition.

This also applies to the classic tale where someone is stealing food from a communal fridge so an enterprising idiot puts laxatives in a sandwich. Congratulations! You've just committed a felony by poisoning someone.


- Fart spray isn't a booby trap and doesn't injure anyone, it will just make the police office stink like ass

- It isn't a trap if it is in my possession all of the time. Anyone who takes it out of my possession forcefully, it's their fault


Again, even if what you're saying is logically consistent, it is absolutely completely 100% wrong with regard to the law. A booby trap is still a booby trap even if you throw your hands up and say "that's not a booby trap."

"This shotgun attached to a string isn't a trap if it's in my possession all of the time. If you take it out of my possession forcefully and it blows your head off, that's your fault!"


I'm not saying you're wrong on the facts. But altering my lunch and getting in trouble when someone steals it is insanity.


Not who you're replying to but I've spent a lot of time reading about this particular aspect of law. I more or less happen to agree with you, but this is one of those examples where I think we've taken a lot of small steps in one direction and all of a sudden it looks crazy to an outside observer who doesn't understand the full context.

There's a concept of you "altering" your lunch such that it becomes dangerous or inedible but still leaving it out, e.g. in a fridge, where a reasonable person would assume that the lunch is edible. If you put rat poison in your lunch then throw it in the garbage, it's going to be harder to argue that you intentionally hurt that person who stole it. Even harder is if you put in a biohazard disposal bag.

There's the concept of the severity of the offense - poisoning someone is worse than stealing their lunch. Nobody is calling the cops because their lunch got stolen once.

There's intent. If you poison your lunch and put it back in the fridge, you're accepting there's a chance someone takes it. Can you prove someone intentionally took your lunch as opposed to accidentally taking it? You can accidentally take the wrong takeout container, even multiple times. You can't accidentally poison your own food.


I agree with you that it's a complex and subtle area of law. For more color on this, it's helpful to keep in mind the difference between criminal liability and civil liability. Also, the concepts of "reckless endangerment", "negligence" and "due care." Factors which can change what may be "okay" to "not okay" include private vs public property, intent and, the ever present catch-all, reasonableness.

The likelihood of getting in legal trouble, as well as the potential severity of the trouble, can vary widely depending on where, how, who and other surrounding context.


How about this? Set up a recording that shames the thief when triggered, inflicting emotional damage.


> You can't accidentally poison your own food.

Sure you can, it's just off topic.


Would this work:

* put a warning wrap on your sandwich - danger - this sandwich may have laxatives added

* if your sandwiches continue to go missing, label them AND add laxatives


well then you're specifically poisoning people who can't read English.

Legally, there's really not a way around it besides simply not doing that.


What if you needed the laxatives, medically?


Do you really think you're the first person to think of this?

If you actually need a certain medication, and you absolutely must take it by putting it in your lunch, then I suppose you can feel free to explain that in a courtroom, but you should be reminded that perjury is a vey bad legal strategy and judges don't like to play games.




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